Working in the garden used to seem so futile since I used to believe that it would all be destroyed very soon anyway. LOL
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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exJW Psychology 101--Keeping Your Cool While Fading
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inin an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, i'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.. .
personally, i don't have much of a temper.
what i do have, i've learned to control.
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Son is giving first talk, conflicted
by marriedtoajw inmy son is still studying with the jw's and is giving his first talk this tuesday.
he's 22 and still living in my home.
my other two boys 12 and 15 are here as well but don't study cuz wifee knows how i feel.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I'll come from left field on this suggestion. I wouldn't bother with wifee, the kids, or the inlaws. I'd go straight to the elders at the KH.
I'd very much be tempted to visit the KH and ask the elders if it's against their religion for JWs to get jobs. Tell them what you've told us about having to work hard for long hours to only be disrespected by your wife and her family.
And tell them that your nonJW family thinks that all JWs are lazy moochers and haters.
If I didn't see some results, and quick, I'd find out the elders' phone numbers and call them. I'd find their addresses and visit them.
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desperate or stupid - you decide
by finally awake injust ron has received a couple of phone calls in the last few days from the rbc brother wanting him to come roof a kingdom hall.
now, just ron hasn't been to a meeting since december 2011, and certainly hasn't got a current volunteer form on file.
so i ask, are they desperate or just stupid?.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
They're stupid.
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Where has the money gone??????
by joe134cd inafter all the real estate sell offs, im confidently sure that the wts must be a flush with cash (well at least for the present time).
i cant believe how blissfully un-aware the local dubbies are about where the money has gone and what it is been used for.
so my question is where has all this money gone??
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
WT will certainly never open their books for an audit.
As long as they have the protection that the US gives to religious organizations, nobody will ever know.
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exJW Psychology 101--Keeping Your Cool While Fading
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inin an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, i'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.. .
personally, i don't have much of a temper.
what i do have, i've learned to control.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
"It looks like I might have some challenging conversations coming up this summer, so I'm trying to maintain "keeping my cool" as a priority."
So it's time to add an update. Having read about the contents of the DC, and the "apostate" talks, I was worried about any backlash from my parents after they returned from the program. We'd discussed enough that they certainly could have labeled me "apostate." I can sum up everything that happened after their convention in one word... "nothing." I'd mentally rehearsed for all kinds of difficult conversations, I was loaded for bear, but nothing happened. Well, not exactly "nothing," so I'll fill in the events.
Decades of experience taught me to dread the DC, but hidden behind a smile. So much work to get everything ready, sitting in uncomfortable seats for days, coming home exhausted, and Mom stressed out. So, the weekend that my parents were in a crowded arena, I went by to mow the lawn and weed the garden. I saw what they needed and stopped by the store. I actually did a lot of work in the garden since the weather was better than perfect. And I was there when they got home, figuring if I saw much stress or awkwardness, I'd just leave. Well, obviously they were very happy to see so much work done, and Mom was in the best post-DC mood that I'd ever seen, because she wasn't coming home to a bunch of work.
So, I didn't have to run away as soon as they got home. Instead, we worked together and talked about all kinds of nonJW things. The only DC discussion that came up was a passing mention of one release, the mention of a bro that was on the TV news, and the updated list of who are now in wheelchairs. At one point, I thought we might get into it. Dad came toward me, with Bible in hand, saying, "I have a project for you." He then opened the Bible showing the binding falling apart. "There aren't any new ones anywhere and this is falling apart. Is your hand steady enough to glue this?" So, I continued being the good son and carefully glued his binding... without gluing the whole thing shut. So, still no new Bibles in the KH, no Bibles at the DC, no announcement about the Biblelessness. WT should be totally ashamed of themselves.
In my situation with my parents, the GBs power grab to try to alienate JWs from their exJW family with this DC program didn't work. I really think that I paid much more attention to the contents of the DC than my parents did. Otherwise, I was wondering if somebody said something crazy or if something else weird happened that the program seemed to mean nothing to them so soon after it was over. Maybe the "no new Bibles" situation has gotten to them, since I think they were really expecting something at the DC. My parents were more concerned about the news of the wildfires out west, their upcoming vacation plans, and all kinds of things nonJW. And I'm pretty good at reading my folks, but I detected that they had no desire to talk about the DC or anything "spiritual." I didn't have to hear, "best program ever" nonsense. It all seemed really weird... don't get me wrong, it's a very good weird.
I certainly don't mean to gloat about how well this is going with my parents while so many others here on the forum have families that are so messed up by the cult. I realize things could change with my parents, but it sure seems like they're nothing like the diehards they used to be.
And that makes Jehovah Corp and the GB sad.
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A new lesson from Caleb's mom...
by cedars in...totally freak out and drop something if your child fails to say "please.".
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/please-thank-you/.
the woman is clearly a nervous wreck, and very easily offended.. if this is her reaction to caleb forgetting his manners, i shudder to think how she will cope if she ever finds him doing drugs.. .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Judging by her reaction, you would have thought he'd come in shouting, "Hey b!tch, make me a sammich right now and don't give me any lip or I'll beat the **** out of you!"
Evidently, Mom doesn't have a regular meal schedule worked out for the family. I know my mom wouldn't make me a sandwich between meals. She would have told me to grab an apple out of the fridge so I don't spoil my dinner.
Although I agree that it's important to teach manners, including "please" and "thank you", there are better ways than this goofy example where the kid is begging for food. I learned by example from my parents behavior toward each other and using good manners toward me. Frankly, good manners weren't invented by JWs, and their "even Jehovah says please" is goofy. Evidently, very soon now, Jehovah is going to tell all the people that aren't worshipping the GB, "Please die! ... Thank You!"
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Post 6: My brother turns on me now - Possible Legal advice
by sosoconfused inthis is a letter i received today with my brother turning on me based on something that was told to him by my crazy mother.
he works for me, yet has not spoken a word to me in months because he is a self-righteous little dick.. .
what i would like to know from someone who knows the law, is it possible i can sue him if he pressures people to not work with me because of my religious beliefs????
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Hmmm, and any ideas what he will do for work now? He isn't going to try to use you for a job reference is he?
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Post 6: My brother turns on me now - Possible Legal advice
by sosoconfused inthis is a letter i received today with my brother turning on me based on something that was told to him by my crazy mother.
he works for me, yet has not spoken a word to me in months because he is a self-righteous little dick.. .
what i would like to know from someone who knows the law, is it possible i can sue him if he pressures people to not work with me because of my religious beliefs????
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Just my suggestion... If he files for unemployment, inform the bureau that he quit and has chosen to rely on God (or the government) rather than gainful employment. I'm rather surprised that he would put something like this in writing. Keep it as evidence. And keep your paperwork in order for any other JW employees that quit.
Are you in a business where he will try to bad-mouth you in order to steal clients?
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will a judicial comittee allow you to face your accusers
by label licker inwe were told today, yes!
our accusers will be there.
is it true?
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I'll just link to what happened to me, what I did. It wasn't a JC, but accusations were involved.
Here's some of my other tactics:
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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt
by QC inif you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
" Evolution/Abiogenesis world view is goofy. Dark Age stuff. Convoluted clunky! "
You've already proven that you're comfortable attacking these subjects, but you've given no proof that invisible, all-knowing, super-intelligent designers spontaneously generate, coming to life out of nothing.